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	<title>Comments on: Whats with __MACOSX in Zip files?</title>
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		<title>By: Diwaker Gupta</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-193319</link>
		<dc:creator>Diwaker Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rick: Actually I&#039;m not a Windows user, never was. I agree, having thumbs.db all over the place can be pretty annoying. Thankfully Linux has neither of those problems (usually).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rick: Actually I&#8217;m not a Windows user, never was. I agree, having thumbs.db all over the place can be pretty annoying. Thankfully Linux has neither of those problems (usually).</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-193298</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I feel your pain, Mac users also have complaints about archives created on Windows boxes... the &quot;thumbs.db&quot; file(s).

Instead of having one directory in the root (__MACOSX) that can be easily deleted, the thumbs.db files are in every directory of the extracted data.  These of course can be deleted using a find command, but it is a real pain in the rear!  I would rather delete one folder than have to find hundreds of files!

I use both OS X and Windows, so I am used to dealing with the oddities of both... remember that there is two sides to everything, you&#039;ve only experience your side of it because you are on Windows.  Come to the other side and experience from a Mac perspective and you may start saying &lt;b&gt;&quot;the way Micrsoft does it is not only wrong, but stupid and unnecessary!&quot;&lt;/b&gt;   ;-o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I feel your pain, Mac users also have complaints about archives created on Windows boxes&#8230; the &#8220;thumbs.db&#8221; file(s).</p>
<p>Instead of having one directory in the root (__MACOSX) that can be easily deleted, the thumbs.db files are in every directory of the extracted data.  These of course can be deleted using a find command, but it is a real pain in the rear!  I would rather delete one folder than have to find hundreds of files!</p>
<p>I use both OS X and Windows, so I am used to dealing with the oddities of both&#8230; remember that there is two sides to everything, you&#8217;ve only experience your side of it because you are on Windows.  Come to the other side and experience from a Mac perspective and you may start saying <b>&#8220;the way Micrsoft does it is not only wrong, but stupid and unnecessary!&#8221;</b>   ;-o)</p>
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		<title>By: Mael</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-190610</link>
		<dc:creator>Mael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article - I was wondering why the hell zip files from my friend on a Mac has this annoying folder in. I thought it may have been a ridiculous part of the Mac file system. I&#039;m glad it&#039;s not.

However, wow... Talk about bias! &quot;More and more people are using Mac&#039;s for development these days ... Several plugin and theme authors for Wordpress also develop on Mac. &lt;strong&gt;While this is a good thing&lt;/strong&gt; ...&quot; It&#039;s good? Why? I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve read anything so funny before! That statement is ironic when this article itself is about a superfluous subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article &#8211; I was wondering why the hell zip files from my friend on a Mac has this annoying folder in. I thought it may have been a ridiculous part of the Mac file system. I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>However, wow&#8230; Talk about bias! &#8220;More and more people are using Mac&#8217;s for development these days &#8230; Several plugin and theme authors for Wordpress also develop on Mac. <strong>While this is a good thing</strong> &#8230;&#8221; It&#8217;s good? Why? I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve read anything so funny before! That statement is ironic when this article itself is about a superfluous subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Perberos</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-187081</link>
		<dc:creator>Perberos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a script for Nautilus to remove those folders.
http://www.gtk-apps.org/content/show.php?content=112997
Not so big, but is usefull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a script for Nautilus to remove those folders.<br />
<a href="http://www.gtk-apps.org/content/show.php?content=112997" rel="nofollow">http://www.gtk-apps.org/content/show.php?content=112997</a><br />
Not so big, but is usefull</p>
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		<title>By: Is new installed Wordpress plugin package clean? &#124; ShinePHP.com</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-185413</link>
		<dc:creator>Is new installed Wordpress plugin package clean? &#124; ShinePHP.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] system automatically during .zip archive file creation. Its origin is well written in this post http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files. .DS_Store (Desktop Services Store) is a hidden file created by Apple Inc.&#8217;s Mac OS X [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] system automatically during .zip archive file creation. Its origin is well written in this post <a href="http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files" rel="nofollow">http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files</a>. .DS_Store (Desktop Services Store) is a hidden file created by Apple Inc.&#8217;s Mac OS X [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-185411</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Diwaker for the information. I work with PC only and your explanation is very useful for me. Though your post was sent in February, 2007 it is still actual. I just downloaded the last 2.3 version of WP-Forum WordPress plugin from its home page. It contains the __MACOSX/ folder you wrote above. Wordpress plugin and theme developers must be aware about such problem and build clean installation packages, free of any unnecessary staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Diwaker for the information. I work with PC only and your explanation is very useful for me. Though your post was sent in February, 2007 it is still actual. I just downloaded the last 2.3 version of WP-Forum WordPress plugin from its home page. It contains the __MACOSX/ folder you wrote above. Wordpress plugin and theme developers must be aware about such problem and build clean installation packages, free of any unnecessary staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Bur</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-184185</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Bur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The zip shell command on Macs creates standard zip files, just like everyone else&#039;s.

The Compress (formerly Archive) command in the Mac OS X Finder creates zip-compatible archives but does not use the zip command (nor will unzip interpret the __MACOSX directory correctly). The &quot;ditto&quot; command with the &quot;-k&quot; (zip-compatible) option can create these archives and extract correctly from them, and the ditto man page gives an example of mimicking the Finder&#039;s Compress command from the shell.

The information contained in __MACOSX contains all manner of things that cannot be expressed in simple file systems and simple archive formats. There are old-style Mac resources in there sometimes (though not so much these days, as they are obsolete). Mostly, the extra information is extended attributes and metadata. Mac users would not be happy if it were lost.

Those who want just the simple bytestream and nothing else should avoid the Finder&#039;s compress command and instead use one of the solutions that other posters have proposed (or just run zip from the shell).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The zip shell command on Macs creates standard zip files, just like everyone else&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The Compress (formerly Archive) command in the Mac OS X Finder creates zip-compatible archives but does not use the zip command (nor will unzip interpret the __MACOSX directory correctly). The &#8220;ditto&#8221; command with the &#8220;-k&#8221; (zip-compatible) option can create these archives and extract correctly from them, and the ditto man page gives an example of mimicking the Finder&#8217;s Compress command from the shell.</p>
<p>The information contained in __MACOSX contains all manner of things that cannot be expressed in simple file systems and simple archive formats. There are old-style Mac resources in there sometimes (though not so much these days, as they are obsolete). Mostly, the extra information is extended attributes and metadata. Mac users would not be happy if it were lost.</p>
<p>Those who want just the simple bytestream and nothing else should avoid the Finder&#8217;s compress command and instead use one of the solutions that other posters have proposed (or just run zip from the shell).</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-176297</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://floatingsun.net/blog/2007/02/07/793/#comment-176297</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;
They should have just used the UNIX filesystem standard of a ‘.’ prefix in the directory name. Created a “.macosx” and kept the metadata in there. 
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Since most Windows users and a lot of Mac users tend to &quot;hide&#039; dot files from themselves, this could result in the buildup of junk over time. Better to hang it out there and let the user decide if they want it or not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i><br />
They should have just used the UNIX filesystem standard of a ‘.’ prefix in the directory name. Created a “.macosx” and kept the metadata in there.<br />
</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Since most Windows users and a lot of Mac users tend to &#8220;hide&#8217; dot files from themselves, this could result in the buildup of junk over time. Better to hang it out there and let the user decide if they want it or not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Crissman</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-154231</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Crissman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a helpful script for automatically creating a clean (no __MACOSX dir) archive from the Mac itself: http://junecloud.com/software/mac/create-clean-archive.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a helpful script for automatically creating a clean (no __MACOSX dir) archive from the Mac itself: <a href="http://junecloud.com/software/mac/create-clean-archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://junecloud.com/software/mac/create-clean-archive.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: thesenewkicks</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-149489</link>
		<dc:creator>thesenewkicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t make sense to me. They should have just used the UNIX filesystem standard of a &#039;.&#039; prefix in the directory name. Created a &quot;.macosx&quot; and kept the metadata in there. Also, I wonder what happens if the user creates a directory called &quot;__MACOSX&quot;? Escape characters? Or will it just disappear into the void of meta-data nothingness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t make sense to me. They should have just used the UNIX filesystem standard of a &#8216;.&#8217; prefix in the directory name. Created a &#8220;.macosx&#8221; and kept the metadata in there. Also, I wonder what happens if the user creates a directory called &#8220;__MACOSX&#8221;? Escape characters? Or will it just disappear into the void of meta-data nothingness?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-144296</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presuming your unzip executable is in /usr/bin, and that you&#039;re using the bash shell, you can fix this problem once and for all by putting the following in your ~/.bashrc

unzip() {
    /usr/bin/unzip &quot;$@&quot; -x &#039;__MACOSX/*&#039;
}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presuming your unzip executable is in /usr/bin, and that you&#8217;re using the bash shell, you can fix this problem once and for all by putting the following in your ~/.bashrc</p>
<p>unzip() {<br />
    /usr/bin/unzip &#8220;$@&#8221; -x &#8216;__MACOSX/*&#8217;<br />
}</p>
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		<title>By: Reza Jelveh</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-136466</link>
		<dc:creator>Reza Jelveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use the following for zip and mail bound to apple-shift-z(the original is from macosxhints forum i think with a little bugfix):
nothing keeps you from using terminal though. or one of the various other freeware packing tools available. this resource fork is the reason why you see pictures instead of folders for certain zip archives onces theyre extracted. as for the collisions... nothing a little bit of force can&#039;t fix ;p

property theMonthList : {mJanuary:1, mFebruary:2, mMarch:3, mApril:¬
	4, mMay:5, mJune:6, mJuly:7, mAugust:8, mSeptember:¬
	9, mOctober:10, mNovember:1, mDecember:12}

set temp to &quot;lmr&quot;
--set theFold to choose folder with prompt &quot;Bitte Zielordner auswählen:&quot;

set fileName to (temp &amp; &quot;-&quot; &amp; gib_Zeitstempel(current date))

on gib_Zeitstempel(theDate)
	return ((((day of theDate) as string) &amp; &quot;-&quot; &amp; (Get_Obj(my theMonthList, &quot;m&quot; &amp; month of theDate)) as string) &amp; &quot;-&quot; &amp; (year of theDate) as string) &amp; &quot;-&quot; &amp; ((time of theDate) as string)
end gib_Zeitstempel

on Get_Obj(theObj, theProp)
	tell (run script &quot;me 
on f(theObj) 
return theObj&#039;s &quot; &amp; theProp &amp; &quot; 
end f&quot;) to return f(theObj)
end Get_Obj

tell application &quot;Finder&quot;
	set theItem to selection as alias
	set itemPath to quoted form of POSIX path of theItem
	set ZuErsetzenText to name of theItem
	set theFolder to POSIX path of (container of theItem as alias)
	
	set zipFile to theFolder &amp; fileName &amp; &quot;.zip&quot;
	do shell script &quot;zip -r -j &quot; &amp; (quoted form of zipFile) &amp; &quot; &quot; &amp; itemPath
	-- delay 1 -- this may be needed (and adjusted) for larger folders?
	try -- We don&#039;t need to say anything if there are no .DS_Store files
		do shell script &quot;zip -d &quot; &amp; (quoted form of zipFile) &amp; &quot; &#039;*.DS_Store&#039;&quot;
	end try
end tell

tell application &quot;Mail&quot;
	set theMessage to make outgoing message
	tell theMessage
		set zipFile to (zipFile as POSIX file) as alias
		make new attachment with properties {file name:zipFile} at after the last paragraph
	end tell
	set visible of theMessage to true
end tell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use the following for zip and mail bound to apple-shift-z(the original is from macosxhints forum i think with a little bugfix):<br />
nothing keeps you from using terminal though. or one of the various other freeware packing tools available. this resource fork is the reason why you see pictures instead of folders for certain zip archives onces theyre extracted. as for the collisions&#8230; nothing a little bit of force can&#8217;t fix ;p</p>
<p>property theMonthList : {mJanuary:1, mFebruary:2, mMarch:3, mApril:¬<br />
	4, mMay:5, mJune:6, mJuly:7, mAugust:8, mSeptember:¬<br />
	9, mOctober:10, mNovember:1, mDecember:12}</p>
<p>set temp to &#8220;lmr&#8221;<br />
&#8211;set theFold to choose folder with prompt &#8220;Bitte Zielordner auswählen:&#8221;</p>
<p>set fileName to (temp &amp; &#8220;-&#8221; &amp; gib_Zeitstempel(current date))</p>
<p>on gib_Zeitstempel(theDate)<br />
	return ((((day of theDate) as string) &amp; &#8220;-&#8221; &amp; (Get_Obj(my theMonthList, &#8220;m&#8221; &amp; month of theDate)) as string) &amp; &#8220;-&#8221; &amp; (year of theDate) as string) &amp; &#8220;-&#8221; &amp; ((time of theDate) as string)<br />
end gib_Zeitstempel</p>
<p>on Get_Obj(theObj, theProp)<br />
	tell (run script &#8220;me<br />
on f(theObj)<br />
return theObj&#8217;s &#8221; &amp; theProp &amp; &#8221;<br />
end f&#8221;) to return f(theObj)<br />
end Get_Obj</p>
<p>tell application &#8220;Finder&#8221;<br />
	set theItem to selection as alias<br />
	set itemPath to quoted form of POSIX path of theItem<br />
	set ZuErsetzenText to name of theItem<br />
	set theFolder to POSIX path of (container of theItem as alias)</p>
<p>	set zipFile to theFolder &amp; fileName &amp; &#8220;.zip&#8221;<br />
	do shell script &#8220;zip -r -j &#8221; &amp; (quoted form of zipFile) &amp; &#8221; &#8221; &amp; itemPath<br />
	&#8211; delay 1 &#8212; this may be needed (and adjusted) for larger folders?<br />
	try &#8212; We don&#8217;t need to say anything if there are no .DS_Store files<br />
		do shell script &#8220;zip -d &#8221; &amp; (quoted form of zipFile) &amp; &#8221; &#8216;*.DS_Store&#8217;&#8221;<br />
	end try<br />
end tell</p>
<p>tell application &#8220;Mail&#8221;<br />
	set theMessage to make outgoing message<br />
	tell theMessage<br />
		set zipFile to (zipFile as POSIX file) as alias<br />
		make new attachment with properties {file name:zipFile} at after the last paragraph<br />
	end tell<br />
	set visible of theMessage to true<br />
end tell</p>
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		<title>By: jwa</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-126453</link>
		<dc:creator>jwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I request to archive a directory into a Zip file, thats exactly what I want. If I later unarchive that zip file, I should get my original directory back.&quot;  which is exactly why the Mac embeds the resource forks in the __MACOSX directory. Otherwise you would not get back exactly what you Archived; there would be data-loss of those attributes.  These can include: file-type, creator, custom icon and others.

I agree that when you unzip one of these on a non-mac (or with a non-resource-fork-aware unzip utility) you get cruft, which is easily dealt with via a &quot;rm -r __MACOSX&quot; command or using &quot;uznip foo.zip -x &#039;__MACOSX/*&#039; &quot; to unpack it. 

It is no different that the .DS_STORE files that creep into mac zips, or the tumbs.db that creep into windows zips when there are images in the directory.

your points 2, 3, and 4 all fall prey to the fact that this is needed data for &quot;get[ing] my original directory back&quot;. I find point 5 flawed in that a malware capable of that could be putting copies of it self anywhere in your zip file: in .foo directories, replacing other files, etc There is no added security risk.  Point 6 is incorrect because attributes like creator, customicon, and filetype metadata can NOT be recreated on demand from the file in any case where they were specified as non-default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I request to archive a directory into a Zip file, thats exactly what I want. If I later unarchive that zip file, I should get my original directory back.&#8221;  which is exactly why the Mac embeds the resource forks in the __MACOSX directory. Otherwise you would not get back exactly what you Archived; there would be data-loss of those attributes.  These can include: file-type, creator, custom icon and others.</p>
<p>I agree that when you unzip one of these on a non-mac (or with a non-resource-fork-aware unzip utility) you get cruft, which is easily dealt with via a &#8220;rm -r __MACOSX&#8221; command or using &#8220;uznip foo.zip -x &#8216;__MACOSX/*&#8217; &#8221; to unpack it. </p>
<p>It is no different that the .DS_STORE files that creep into mac zips, or the tumbs.db that creep into windows zips when there are images in the directory.</p>
<p>your points 2, 3, and 4 all fall prey to the fact that this is needed data for &#8220;get[ing] my original directory back&#8221;. I find point 5 flawed in that a malware capable of that could be putting copies of it self anywhere in your zip file: in .foo directories, replacing other files, etc There is no added security risk.  Point 6 is incorrect because attributes like creator, customicon, and filetype metadata can NOT be recreated on demand from the file in any case where they were specified as non-default.</p>
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		<title>By: Ergolad</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-114507</link>
		<dc:creator>Ergolad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey how about the ATT00004.htm files and ATT00007.txt files that are created when sending mail from MAIL.APP to Outlook? Would like to prevent these from happening too. Suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey how about the ATT00004.htm files and ATT00007.txt files that are created when sending mail from MAIL.APP to Outlook? Would like to prevent these from happening too. Suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Ergolad</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-114505</link>
		<dc:creator>Ergolad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey how about the ATT00004.htm files and ATT00007.txt files that are created when sending mail from MAIL.APP to Outlook. Would like to prevent these from happening too. Suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey how about the ATT00004.htm files and ATT00007.txt files that are created when sending mail from MAIL.APP to Outlook. Would like to prevent these from happening too. Suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: VII</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-74021</link>
		<dc:creator>VII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>their* .................lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>their* &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..lol</p>
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		<title>By: VII</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-74019</link>
		<dc:creator>VII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Diwaker Gupta : It&#039;s the same with everything else that&#039;s popular, after awhile everything that becomes mainstream becomes the new subject of hatred, not always just because of the simple fact that it&#039;s now mainstream, but oftentimes because those that are accepted into the mainstream simply don&#039;t know how to act when it comes to the increased power they have over they&#039;re customers. It&#039;s terrible that things are that way EVERYWHERE. We really need to go back to the days when corporations (and governments &gt;_&gt;) used to fear their fickle customers and aim to please them by any means necessary. Soon they&#039;ll be talking about how, &quot;back-in-the-day&quot; Macs used to be for purists...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Diwaker Gupta : It&#8217;s the same with everything else that&#8217;s popular, after awhile everything that becomes mainstream becomes the new subject of hatred, not always just because of the simple fact that it&#8217;s now mainstream, but oftentimes because those that are accepted into the mainstream simply don&#8217;t know how to act when it comes to the increased power they have over they&#8217;re customers. It&#8217;s terrible that things are that way EVERYWHERE. We really need to go back to the days when corporations (and governments &gt;_&gt;) used to fear their fickle customers and aim to please them by any means necessary. Soon they&#8217;ll be talking about how, &#8220;back-in-the-day&#8221; Macs used to be for purists&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Diwaker Gupta</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-72092</link>
		<dc:creator>Diwaker Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@VII: for the sake of everyone involved, lets hope that doesn&#039;t happen! I haven&#039;t owned a Mac yet, but I am seriously contemplating buying a Mac Book Pro for my next laptop :) But you make an interesting point. I wonder how the Apple fanboy/fanatics would feel if Apple did indeed become #1 in the market. Would they still feel as cool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VII: for the sake of everyone involved, lets hope that doesn&#8217;t happen! I haven&#8217;t owned a Mac yet, but I am seriously contemplating buying a Mac Book Pro for my next laptop :) But you make an interesting point. I wonder how the Apple fanboy/fanatics would feel if Apple did indeed become #1 in the market. Would they still feel as cool?</p>
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		<title>By: VII</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-68534</link>
		<dc:creator>VII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for the info...I feel that the Macs will soon go the way of Microsoft and start becoming more and more retarded and caring less and less about the end user, as they are becoming increasingly popular at an exponential rate. It&#039;s sad but it&#039;s a very human reaction to being presented with an advantage...since Vista is like the equivalent of computational Herpes, people are running in droves to Apple; but instead of just maintaining themselves as a company that puts the end user first, they will take advantage of the situation. Just like with the I-Pods...In actuality, they do what Microsoft does, only much better. In a sneakier, &quot;spider-ensnaring-flies&quot; kinda way...and it&#039;s SO easy too. I hope that they realize that they need Microsoft to be #1 though, just like BugerKing needs McDonald&#039;s to be #1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for the info&#8230;I feel that the Macs will soon go the way of Microsoft and start becoming more and more retarded and caring less and less about the end user, as they are becoming increasingly popular at an exponential rate. It&#8217;s sad but it&#8217;s a very human reaction to being presented with an advantage&#8230;since Vista is like the equivalent of computational Herpes, people are running in droves to Apple; but instead of just maintaining themselves as a company that puts the end user first, they will take advantage of the situation. Just like with the I-Pods&#8230;In actuality, they do what Microsoft does, only much better. In a sneakier, &#8220;spider-ensnaring-flies&#8221; kinda way&#8230;and it&#8217;s SO easy too. I hope that they realize that they need Microsoft to be #1 though, just like BugerKing needs McDonald&#8217;s to be #1.</p>
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		<title>By: maze</title>
		<link>http://floatingsun.net/2007/02/07/whats-with-__macosx-in-zip-files/comment-page-1/#comment-67451</link>
		<dc:creator>maze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see lots of mac fanboy here.. and i lol a lot at you ;)</description>
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